Hey Israel – What Part Of This Is So Hard To Understand?

Look at this picture:

APTOPIX MIDEAST ISRAEL PALESTINIANS

As Palestinians, Muslims, and basically every other group that dislikes you around the globe look at pictures like this, what makes you think they will ever stop attacking you? All you are doing is convincing them that they are right and encouraging them to be more set in their ways than ever. Haven’t we been down this death and destruction trail over and over and over and over?

I get that you cannot allow Hamas to continue to bomb Israel at will. But what you need is for the Palestinian people, as well as your other neighbors, to see it as a problem. From my point of view, bribery would have been the best thing. Give them something that Hamas cannot. Money. Lots and lots of money. (Yes, I know you gave them some territory. I can’t buy food with a handful of dirt). The good news is that you are a very wealthy country so money is no object. Is it “caving into the terrorists”? Who cares? You just want this to be over with as do many others in the region.

When you have pictures of injured children, it does not matter what country you are from. You are immediately the bad guy. (Even when you try to play it off as merely propaganda). And let’s face it Israel, you weren’t the most beloved country in the world to start with. This latest jaunt into “enemy” territory is going to be good for several more years of fighting. It is one thing to dislike your neighbors…like we in the US get fed up with the Canadians. But when you hate your neighbor with a white hot intensity, nothing good will come from it.

Using a bazooka in a knife fight, while effective, makes you look like little more than a bully. You are supposed to be the grown up in the confrontation. You are supposed to reach out politically across the world and build a coalition that will help defend your borders and protect your interests. But because of these rather frequent over the top outbursts, it is hard for your friends to defend your actions.

At this point, you are in too deep to turn back. You basically have to completely wipe out Hamas and ask, “Who wants some of this next?” Fear is a powerful weapon and it may be all you have in your favor at this point. No one wants to touch this so you will probably be free to go as far as you want. Just keep this in mind. Every person that already didn’t like you now will hate you forever. That’s at least another 2 generations worth of violence. Are you right in what you did? Maybe, but you will pay a heavy price.

Oh, and if you are waiting for a guy with the middle name of “Hussein” to help, it might be a long wait. However, we do appreciate you taking the “most hated nation” target off of our back…even for a little while.

EDIT: Submitted by Liz. (I understand the point about the Palastinian hiding behind the baby. But why did the Israeli guy bring a baby carriage to a gunfight?)

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35 Responses to Hey Israel – What Part Of This Is So Hard To Understand?

  1. elizabeth3hersh says:

    I found your commentary appalling TL. Since I am not feeling well, I am going to offer you an excerpt written by Charles Krauthammer in 2006 as it addressed another photo of a Palestinian child (a human shield actually). Please read on:

    (http://www.JewishWorldReview.com) |

    It was another one of those pictures that goes instantly around the world. A young Palestinian, wailing in wretched sorrow, grieving over her dead father, stepmother and five siblings who had been killed by an explosion on a Gaza beach. Then came the blame. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas (he’s the moderate) immediately called the killings an act of Israeli “genocide” and, to dramatize the crime, legally adopted the bereaved girl.

    Who is to blame if Palestinians are setting up rocket launchers to attack Israel?

    Answer: This is another example of the Palestinians’ classic and cowardly human-shield tactic — attacking innocent Israeli civilians while hiding behind innocent Palestinian civilians. For Palestinian terrorists — and the Palestinian governments (both Fatah and Hamas) that allow them to operate unmolested — it’s a win-win: If their rockets aimed into Israeli towns kill innocent Jews, no one abroad notices and it’s another success in the terrorist war against Israel. And if Israel’s preventive and deterrent attacks on those rocket bases inadvertently kill Palestinian civilians, the iconic “Israeli massacre” picture makes the front page of the New York Times, and the Palestinians win the propaganda war.

    But there is an even larger question not asked. Whether the rocket bases are near civilian beaches or in remote areas, why are the Gazans launching any rockets at Israel in the first place — about 1,000 in the past year?

    To get Israel to remove its settlers, end the occupation and let the Palestinians achieve dignity and independence? But Israel did exactly that in Gaza last year. It completely evacuated Gaza, dismantled all its military installations, removed its soldiers, destroyed all Israeli settlements and expelled all 7,000 Israeli settlers. Israel then declared the line that separates Israel from Gaza to be an international frontier. Gaza became the first independent Palestinian territory ever.

    And what have the Palestinians done with this independence, this judenrein territory under the Palestinians’ control? They have used their freedom to launch rockets at civilians in nearby Israeli towns.

    Why? Because the Palestinians prefer victimhood to statehood. They have demonstrated that for 60 years, beginning with their rejection of the United Nations decision to establish a Palestinian state in 1947 because it would have also created a small Jewish state next door. They declared war instead.

    Half a century later, at the Camp David summit with President Bill Clinton, Israel renewed the offer of a Palestinian state — with its capital in Jerusalem, with not a single Jewish settler remaining in Palestine, and on a contiguous territory encompassing 95 percent of the West Bank (Israel making up the other 5 percent with pieces of Israel proper).

    The Palestinian answer? War again — Yasser Arafat’s terror war, aka the second intifada, which killed a thousand Jews.

    This embrace of victimhood, of martyrdom, of blood and suffering, is the Palestinian disease. They are offered an independent state. They are given all of Gaza. And they respond with rocket attacks into peaceful Israeli towns — in pre-1967 Israel proper, mind you.

    What can Israel do but try to take out those rocket bases and their crews? What would the United States do if rockets were raining into San Diego from across the border with Mexico?

    Now look again at that terrible photograph and ask yourself: Who is responsible for the heart-rending grief of that poor Palestinian girl?

    • tannerleah says:

      Liz – You only like Krauthammer because of his German sounding name. He is a loon.

      How is Palestine different than any other martyrdom state? What else do they have going for them? For all practical purposes, they are a welfare state. Poor people have nothing to lose which is why they are so willing to die. You can keep bombing them all that you want but it hasn’t worked before and it won’t work now. How hard is it to learn this lesson?

      And stop with the rockets raining down. Their rockets are more like bottle rockets. Less than 10 killed after some 6000 rockets have been launched? That sounds like quite a rocket.

  2. spiritualway says:

    = = I get that you cannot allow Hamas to continue to bomb Israel at will. But what you need is for the Palestinian people, as well as your other neighbors, to see it as a problem. = =

    After this past week I would definitely see it as a “problem”!!!

  3. SC&A says:

    There is no such thing as a ‘disproportionate response’ to calls for genocide. Hamas has made clear their genocidal intent.

    Hitler too, came to power as the result of free elections. Likethe Palestinians and Hamas, Germans knew who they elected. Had western democracies agreed to bomb Berlin prior to WW2, up to 50 million lives would have been saved.

    Israel has no moral obligation to wait for Hamas to live out their genocidal fantasies.

    • tannerleah says:

      SC&A – If Israel truly thinks they are going to be wiped from the face of the earth, then they need to respond in an appropriate fashion. Which is to say, they need to completely overthrow the government of Palestine and do what the US did in Iraq…assault and occupy.

  4. spiritualway says:

    For the ten people killed and their families, probably does not feel like “bottle rockets” raining down!

    Sounds like you view the moral high ground being based on the numbers killed. Possibly the number is low because Israel goes to great lengths to protect its citizens!

    • tannerleah says:

      Well, I think Israel is up to 540 kills at this point…200 civilians. But, whatever it takes, correct?

      There is no moral high ground here. Both sides continue to lose and become more entrenched in their hatred with no end in sight.

  5. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Charles Krauthammer is a Pulitzer Prize winning syndicated columnist (Washington Post) and commentator who incidentally earned an MD in psychiatry from Harvard. He also supports a two-state solution to the Palestinian problem. His intellect rather than his German sounding name is the sole attraction.

    All of my adult life, I have taken the time to read a newspaper from front to back and pay special attention to the op-ed pages. I read Krauthammer, Will, Friedman, Sowell, Goldberg, Rich and many, many others. I supplement that with national news and news analysis programming both liberal and conservative. I also watch Mosaic TV which gives me the Middle East perspective: Al Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and Dubai (all Arab broadcasts). I even watch a weekly Israeli sitcom called “Arab Labor” which features an Arab family and is in Arabic. All of this does not make me an expert in Middle East affairs, but it does make me somewhat knowledgeable and entitled to an INFORMED opinion. My teenage daughters, who have been reading said syndicated columnist for the last five years are equally knowledgeable.

    TL, where are you getting your news sources on Middle Eastern affairs (the Huffington Post)? You make so many comments that reveal your sheer and utter ignorance on the subject. Read up on the issue and then offer your INFORMED and unbiased opinion.

    For those who do not read the newspaper, here is Charles Krauthammer’s latest article:

    Moral clarity in Gaza

    By Charles Krauthammer

    Late Saturday, thousands of Gazans received Arabic-language cell-phone messages from the Israeli military, urging them to leave homes where militants might have stashed weapons.
    — Associated Press, Dec. 27

    Some geopolitical conflicts are morally complicated. The Israel-Gaza war is not. It possesses a moral clarity not only rare but excruciating.

    Israel is so scrupulous about civilian life that, risking the element of surprise, it contacts enemy noncombatants in advance to warn them of approaching danger. Hamas, which started this conflict with unrelenting rocket and mortar attacks on unarmed Israelis — 6,464 launched from Gaza in the past three years — deliberately places its weapons in and near the homes of its own people.

    This has two purposes. First, counting on the moral scrupulousness of Israel, Hamas figures civilian proximity might help protect at least part of its arsenal. Second, knowing that Israelis have new precision weapons that may allow them to attack nonetheless, Hamas hopes that inevitable collateral damage — or, if it is really fortunate, an errant Israeli bomb — will kill large numbers of its own people for which, of course, the world will blame Israel.

    For Hamas, the only thing more prized than dead Jews are dead Palestinians. The religion of Jew-murder and self-martyrdom is ubiquitous. And deeply perverse, such as the Hamas TV children’s program in which an adorable live-action Palestinian Mickey Mouse is beaten to death by an Israeli (then replaced by his more militant cousin, Nahoul the Bee, who vows to continue on Mickey’s path to martyrdom).

    At war today in Gaza, one combatant is committed to causing the most civilian pain and suffering on both sides. The other combatant is committed to saving as many lives as possible — also on both sides. It’s a recurring theme. Israel gave similar warnings to Southern Lebanese villagers before attacking Hezbollah in the Lebanon war of 2006. The Israelis did this knowing it would lose for them the element of surprise and cost the lives of their own soldiers.

    That is the asymmetry of means between Hamas and Israel. But there is equal clarity regarding the asymmetry of ends. Israel has but a single objective in Gaza — peace: the calm, open, normal relations it offered Gaza when it withdrew in 2005. Doing something never done by the Turkish, British, Egyptian and Jordanian rulers of Palestine, the Israelis gave the Palestinians their first sovereign territory ever in Gaza.

    What ensued? This is not ancient history. Did the Palestinians begin building the state that is supposedly their great national aim? No. No roads, no industry, no courts, no civil society at all. The flourishing greenhouses that Israel left behind for the Palestinians were destroyed and abandoned. Instead, Gaza’s Iranian-sponsored rulers have devoted all their resources to turning it into a terror base — importing weapons, training terrorists, building tunnels with which to kidnap Israelis on the other side. And of course firing rockets unceasingly.

    The grievance? It cannot be occupation, military control or settlers. They were all removed in September 2005. There’s only one grievance and Hamas is open about it. Israel’s very existence.

    Nor does Hamas conceal its strategy. Provoke conflict. Wait for the inevitable civilian casualties. Bring down the world’s opprobrium on Israel. Force it into an untenable cease-fire — exactly as happened in Lebanon. Then, as in Lebanon, rearm, rebuild and mobilize for the next round. Perpetual war. Since its raison d’etre is the eradication of Israel, there are only two possible outcomes: the defeat of Hamas or the extinction of Israel.

    Israel’s only response is to try to do what it failed to do after the Gaza withdrawal. The unpardonable strategic error of its architect, Ariel Sharon, was not the withdrawal itself but the failure to immediately establish a deterrence regime under which no violence would be tolerated after the removal of any and all Israeli presence — the ostensible justification for previous Palestinian attacks. Instead, Israel allowed unceasing rocket fire, implicitly acquiescing to a state of active war and indiscriminate terror.

    Hamas’s rejection of an extension of its often-violated six-month cease-fire (during which the rockets never stopped, just were less frequent) gave Israel a rare opportunity to establish the norm it should have insisted upon three years ago: no rockets, no mortar fire, no kidnapping, no acts of war. As the U.S. government has officially stated: a sustainable and enduring cease-fire. If this fighting ends with anything less than that, Israel will have lost yet another war. The question is whether Israel still retains the nerve — and the moral self-assurance — to win.

    • tannerleah says:

      Liz – I get it. Everything that Israel does is good…everything that everyone else does is bad. They were so nice as to call people before they were bombed. What if you don’t have a phone? Oh well, you can only do so much.

      Let me take your side for a moment. What is the endgame here? How will Israel stop Hamas (or anyone else, for that matter) from attacking them. They have been extremely generous and that didn’t work. They have pounded the crap out of their enemies and that didn’t work either. So what is it exactly that they intend to do?

      Stop being so damned worried about being on the “righteous” side and give you and Chuck’s Israel loving ego a rest. It doesn’t matter. Israel rocks and is doing Gods work…fine. But what in the hell is the plan!!!

  6. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Thank you for taking the time to read the well crafted words of Charles Krauthammer. Now, imagine for a minute rockets raining down on the tiny country of Holland. Would there be world condemnation if Holland retaliated? Of course not, because it’s Holland. But Holland is not surrounded by enemy combatants. In close proximity to Israel is Jordan, Lebanon (from whence another of Iran’s proxies, Hezbollah, hails), Syria, Iran, Iraq, and Egypt. Can you imagine if Canada was Iran, Mexico Syria and Cuba North Korea? Think we wouldn’t have at the very least our own psychological terror?

    You asked for a plan? Here is a solution or rather a question leading to a potential solution: why don’t the surrounding Arab countries either 1) give land to the Palestinians for the creation of a Palestinian state or 2) absorb the Palestinians into their own countries. I can tell you that option 2 will NEVER happen because THEY DON’T WANT the Palestinians. You should ask yourself, why don’t they want the Palestinians (that’s a whole other blog entry). The following question to ask is why the Arabs (and world) expect postage stamp size Israel to solve the problem? The Palestinians have had 60 years to either assimilate into Israel where the standard of living has never been higher for them or to move on. S-I-X-T-Y years!! I ask you, would it take YOU 60 plus years to either find a home, co-exist peaceably in your host home or accept the numerous offers of a two state solution offered by the Israelis? Well, would it? Of course not, because you are not a terrorist and you are willing to sit down at the negotiating table! Israel has always held out the olive branch to Palestinians and it has consistently been swatted/bombed away.

    Where is the world outrage over missiles raining down on Israel and the terror that Israelis live with every day? From Jan to June 2008, approximately 2700 missiles were fired from Gaza. Since 12/17/08 tiny Israel has been hit by 500 rockets. What country in the world would allow 100 missiles to be fired, let along thousands? Hamas (Iran’s proxy) is a terrorist organization committed to the complete and utter destruction of Israel, our staunch ally and the only democracy in the Middle East. You should also know that Hamas refers to Israel as “Little Satan”…and we (the US) as “Big Satan”. Are you starting to see that you are dealing with an intractable mindset here? There is a huge amount of infighting between Hamas and the somewhat more moderate party Fatah. They cannot get along even amongst themselves and operate one of the most corrupt governments in the world! Unfortunately, the Palestinian people elected Hamas as their government in free elections. They are now paying a terrible price.

    You asked what we can do. We can do what NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg did: show solidarity with Israel. All Israel is asking is for the rocket fire to stop. They also want to demolish the infrastructure (launching sites and smuggling tunnels along the Egyptian border) that allows Hamas free reign to bomb away. The least we can do is support Israel and condemn the real killers (Hamas) who sickeningly use women, children and babies as human shields.

    There wee some inaccuracies in your commentary that I would like to correct:

    1) Israel is not the wealthy country you make it out to be
    2) Jews do not “hate” Palestinians…20% of Israelis population is Arab and many Jews and Arabs get along fabulously (of course, these are not your Hamas members)…many are even FRIENDS!!
    3) referencing your comments about military disproportionality, Michael Bloomberg said it best and I paraphrase: “…if someone is trying to break down your door and they are telling you they are going to kill you, do you want a single officer to respond or do you want the S.W.A.T. team?”

    • tannerleah says:

      Ok, I am sure there was an answer in there somewhere among all of the “raining down missiles” stuff but I probably missed it. For the sake of this argument, I support Israel. They were correct in bombing Hamas and sending in ground troops. Now what? What was the master plan? You can’t kill all of the “bad guys”. Importantly, for every bad guy you kill, there is another to take his place. In fact you are encouraging this line of thinking.

      I am not slamming Israel. The US has the same problem in Iraq. When do we win? When is the “mission accomplished”? Seven years seems like a long time but is probably nothing compared to our long term commitment. What is the end game? When can we say “it’s fixed” and leave it in the good hands of the locals? Occupation just seems like a terrible plan…regardless of what country does it. Very difficult to pull off.

      As to Israel not being wealthy. For a country with a little over 7 million people, they do alright. They are top 30 in per capita GDP. For a “postage stamp”, that’s not too shabby. Also, don’t forget they hang with wealthy friends. Last year, the US promised them another $30 billion for military support. For a country without massive oil exports, they have done a remarkable job.

      Oh, I forgot about your SWAT team question. Yes, I want the SWAT team to come. But I also want them to get the hell out of my house when they are done. In this scenario, they have moved in and are eating my food and watching my big screen TV. They are starting to pi** me off!

  7. art vandelay says:

    Hamas is responsible for the bloodshed to the Palestinians..what part of “ceasefire” don’t they understand? They launched over 500 rockets at Israel during the ceasefire. They brought this shit on themselves. I can guarantee if terrorists in Connecticut were firing missles at NYC, NYC would retaliate. Israel needs to do whatever it can to protect itself. Iran is already involved (providing them with rockets) and if Russia joins in we will see the war of Gog and Magog happen which Ezekiel predicted. And let me tell you, if Obama brings peace between these two entities you better believe prophecy is coming true. It doesn’t matter who comes up against Israel, she will prevail in ANY war…..God said so. Liz your comments were very well said.

    • tannerleah says:

      Gog and Magog? Art, you have seriously lost your mind. Everyone knows that the true test will come when Pooh and Tigger go at it. (Or is it Yosemite Sam and Wile E Coyote? I can never remember).

      So, I ask again, how much longer do I have before I am blown to bits? Are we still on the 2012 time table? I need to know because I’ve got crap to do.

  8. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Thank you Art!!! If we could inject some humor into the Arab world (a la TL…”Allah”…get it?) what a wonderful world this would be. TL, you have plenty of time to finish your crap. As this has been going on for 60 + years (thousands before Israel became a state) it will probably go on for a long time to come. The mission now is two-fold: crush Hamas and their infrastructure and teach the Palestinians a painful lesson about electing terrorists as their leaders.

  9. art vandelay says:

    Nobody knows when the end will come, “it will come like a thief in the night” according to scriputre. So much prophecy has already come true. I was reading a book over Christmas and was in awe of God’s covenant with Abraham in the Old Testament to make Israel and it’s people a great nation. A country no bigger than the size of New Jersey is in our nightly news–more than any other country other than the U.S. The fact the Jews have been preserved throughout history–what happened to the Moabites, Hittites, Edomites? That in itself is incredible. They’re gone but the Jews remain and have even returned to their land, just as God promised. When Israel became a state in 1948 there were only 650,000 jews living there….today 5.4 million. That in itself is a prominent sign that we are living in the last days (last days could = 100s of years-we dont know)
    God also promised Abraham he would make the Jews a great people. Do you know the Jews make up only 1 percent of the human race? 777 Nobel Prizes have been awarded since 1901–176 have been to Jews. Out of 6 billion inhabitants on the earth, only around 13 million are Jewish-less than 2/3 of 1 percent of total world population. That miniscule percentage of population has won 22 percent of all Nobel peace prizes. Wow.
    Russia/Iran are forming alliances against Israel, just as Ezekiel predicted.
    There’s lots more but i”m sure you’ve dozed off by now.
    I’m curious to see how Obama is going to handle the conflict….if he gets them to sign a 7 year peace deal we’re toast…I can give you a better estimate of how much time you have left TL!

    • tannerleah says:

      Liz – How did you steal Art’s log on?

      I realize that the “end times” Christians think they have to go through Israel to get to heaven. (Meaning that Israel is a key part in fulfilling prophecy). What I don’t understand is why a Jew and Christian would be agreeing.

      Christians, if Jews think that Jesus Christ is not the son of God, aren’t they doomed to burn in hell? Don’t you have a problem with the fact that they think your Messiah was a JAG? (just another guy).

      Jews, aren’t you the “chosen” people? Shouldn’t you tell the Christians that they are not part of God’s team and they are woefully wrong in their belief that Jesus is the son of God?

      Honestly, I don’t get this relationship.

  10. art vandelay says:

    Honestly TL I don’t understand it all either….I’m not sure we are supposed to.
    I was amused with your tigger/pooh scenario though 🙂
    Nitey night

  11. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Wouldn’t “end times” be of utmost national security? Shouldn’t Leon Panetta be up to speed and briefed as prophecy unfolds? Seriously folks, think long and deep about this. Shouldn’t the US have some sort of contingency plan? Where is the Armageddon wing of the CIA?

    TL, Lubavitcher Jews believe in the coming of Mashiach (the Messiah). Maybe he will clean up the Israeli/Palestinian thang.

    • tannerleah says:

      You are correct, if end times are coming, I definitely want Leon Panetta to be in charge. What an excellent selection by Barry. Would it have been so horrible to cross party lines and pick Chuck Norris?

  12. art vandelay says:

    Actually top US officials meet with Joel Rosenberg (ex Jew now Christian–psuedo expert on end times) on a regular basis. True dat.

    • tannerleah says:

      When I Wiki Joel I see those famous words again…Gog and Magog. If I were religious, I would say, “God help us all”.

  13. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Actually, Joel Rosenberg is not Jewish. He has Jewish ancestry on the father’s side, but he is not Jewish. According to Halacha (Jewish law), you have to be born to a Jewish mother (or one that converted to Orthodox Judaism) to be legally Jewish. His mother was a gentile. But that’s here nor there. That does not take away from Mr. Rosenberg’s visionary talent. The Pentagon also consults with Hollywood producers, directors and writers about potential terrorism scenarios (they really do!). They are visionaries too!

  14. art vandelay says:

    Joel Rosenberg used to be a PRACTICING Jew and then converted to Christianity.
    Details, details. Liz/Art’s marriage is just fine TL, thank you very much!
    I’m glad our government is open to ALL possibilities regarding terrorism.

  15. art vandelay says:

    BTW, Joel Rosenberg’s parents both converted to Christianity, too.

  16. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Was this a ploy to get me back to http://www.joelrosenberg.com Art? Well, it worked. I logged back on and read the entire “spiritual journey” link which took me a good 15 minutes (I’m a slow reader these days). I stand 100% by my earlier post: Joel Rosenberg is not Jewish and has never been Jewish according to Halachic (Jewish) law. Visiting Israel, eating falafel and dancing the Hora does not make you Jewish. Having a Jewish father does not make you Jewish. To be Jewish, you must be born of a Jewish mother or have had an Orthodox conversion (any other branch does not cut it). Participating in a Seder and reading the Torah does not make you a practicing Jew (although that would be a good start). But, I did get a warm fuzzy feeling reading about his spiritual journey so it’s all good. And the man is visionary. Had he been reared in L.A. instead of Syracuse, he probably would have worked for Spielberg instead of writing novels. Very talented dude.

  17. elizabeth3hersh says:

    I would like to share some news straight from an Abu Dhabi TV (United Arab Emirates) newscast today. I am quoting verbatim:

    “The King (referring to King Abdullah of Jordan) warned that Israel wants to impose a new reality. It does not want to see the establishment of a Palestinian state. If Israel imposes its agenda which His Highness has warned against and has said that it is a conspiracy that a Palestinian state will not be established. The Palestinian people will be a nation without a state. Jordan fears that it will have to pay the price and that its national security will be jeopardized if this solution is imposed on the region.”

    There are three quarter million Palestinians living in refugee camps in Jordan. Although they have Jordanian passports, there do not have social security numbers.Why are they relegated to refugee camps? Why haven’t they been assimilated in all this time? Why does Jordan fear for its national security? Aren’t they all part of the Arab Brotherhood? I don’t get this. It takes Mexicans one generation to be fully assimilated in America. Can one imagine if a Palestinian state was established and they became militarized? I don’t even want to go there. These people need governing and they have demonstrated that they are incapable of governing themselves. Please, Jordan govern the West Bank, Egypt govern Gaza. Do it soon.

  18. elizabeth3hersh says:

    TL, you asked what the endgame is. Charles Krauthammer addresses this question today in the Washington Post. I know it’s your “game day”, but if you are interested in learning more about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict read this:

    “Endgame in Gaza”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/08/AR2009010802993.html?sub=new

    P.S. I don’t “hate” A-rabs, just their fundamentalist ideology (same for Christian and Jewish fundamentalism). I adore Iranian intellectuals and am fascinated by the views of Prince Waleed Bin Talal of Saudi Arabia (just watched a documentary on him in fact). And I love the Israeli sit-com “Arab Labor” which portrays an Arab family living in Israel and is broadcast in Arabic. So there.

  19. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Update on Israel: The reporting of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is becoming more and more virulent (which undoubtedly stokes the Arabic masses) on Al Jazeera TV which I have the pleasure of watching several times weekly. The rhetoric they chose to use is revealing: on the Israeli side are “casualties”, on the Palestinian side they are “martyrs”. Over and over again they refer to “Israeli aggression” and “Israeli war machine”, never referring to Israel as “Israel”. “Resistance fighters” are engaged against “occupation forces”. What exactly are they resisting? Everyone should know by now that the blame squarely belongs on Hamas. They recklessly imbed themselves in homes and schools, store their weapon caches in mosques, and perform their research and development on explosives in their universities and then cry foul when they are bombed and there are civilian casualties. There is no mention during these newscasts of the continuation of Hamas fired missile into Israel. No cries for Hamas to stop their barrage of rockets which would effectively end the war. This is what happens when you elect a terrorist organization as your government leaders. I would like to ask, where is the world outrage and protests when Israeli children are being blown to bits in a pizza parlor by a suicide bomber? Well?

  20. elizabeth3hersh says:

    Still haven’t figured out how to post photos, cartoons, etc. in the comment section. I have asked TL to post my political cartoon which can be viewed if you scroll up..

  21. elizabeth3hersh says:

    To answer your question “why did the Israeli guy bring a baby carriage to a gunfight”…he DID NOT bring a baby carriage to the gunfight. He is protecting civilians, not using them as human shields as opposed to militant Hamas “resistance fighters” (as they like to be called) who imbed themselves in the civilian population. This is why you have seen so many civilian causalities (oops, “martyrs”). Are you not following the news?

  22. elizabeth3hersh says:

    I was very curious to see how Obama’s comments yesterday would be portrayed on Mosaic News today. None addressed or aired his comments yesterday:

    “The outline for a durable cease-fire is clear: Hamas must end its rocket fire, Israel will complete the withdrawal of its forces from Gaza, the US and our partners will support a credible anti-smuggling and interdiction regime, so that Hamas cannot rearm,” Obama said addressing his foreign service officials at the State Department.

    Wouldn’t you think these words would be of utmost importance to the Arabic world? Instead, they focused entirely on Iraq. I am assuming that tomorrow, they will refocus on Gaza.

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